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self bailing on decked dories?
Started Aug 5, 2010
self bailing on decked dories?
Started Aug 5, 2010
self bailing on decked dories?
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Tommy Fuller Oct 21, 2011.
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Tommy Fuller replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Looks effectively to be a P Trap. Do you have to un hook and drain that hose of the standing water?
lhedrick replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Kelly,
I was talking about a raft on that trip. I just got a plain 500 gallon per hour pump. I just stuffed it under the gear pile in the back, mounted a switch up by the oars and ran the hose up over tube and under the chicken line. I ran the pump…
Ukulady replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Ditto!
Ukulady replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Larry,
When you rigged your pump; was the pump inside a hatch or did it stay in the footwell? If it was in the footwell, how did you fasten it into the boat?
Sounds kinda fun to have a battery on board... I'm thinking sound system and dance…
Brad Dimock replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
I think all those pipes in the pictures are from the boatman's footwell out the side.
As far a passenger footwell drains, keep them high. The only time they come into play is when you have a full load of water and you're riding very low.…
Den replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
I was wondering, why do I need to run a bailing hose through the bow seats?
Couldn't I just make the hole at the same height in the hull in the bow footwell?
For that matter, couldn't I cut two or three at different heights and just open…
Brad Dimock replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
When we ran the sweep scow replica through Grand Canyon in '96, we used a cheap bilge pump and a deep cell main battery. That little thing pumped all trip long and at the end of the trip, the battery was still reading full charge. Impressive…
lhedrick replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
2 years ago. I ran most of the grand solo in a bucket boat. I rigged up a pump and battery and it worked just fine. 50 gallons was pumped out in a few minuets. The battery held out to just above the lake and it was also used for lights in camp and…
Den replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Larry, Brad, Robb,Kelly, Jeff and Jeremy,
Thanks a ton to all of you! The photos are especially helpful.
I hope to bump into all of you on western rivers in the next few years.
Den in NH
Ukulady replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Hi there,
Just back from the lower salmon river with a drain channel report!
The boatman's well self-bails quite well, though, on a particularly loaded trip I had water sloshing around until some weight was offloaded. After a big wave hit it…
Robb Grubb replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Brad, I will be hooped if I ever go to England and run a river with that boat. I guess I could copy-cat you and temporarily tow it backwards at that point. Cheers, Robb
Brad Dimock replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Dang, I never thought about designing it to drain while driving in the rain. Luckily, I usually load my boat backward, so my left side drain actually will drain while driving.
Robb Grubb replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Den,
You have the same concerns and questions that I have while building my first dory as well. The young Lads replying here already have done the things you are wondering about and have vast experience. I plan on cutting two holes (2"…
Brad Dimock replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
The reason I made the big oval tube was I did not feel the 2" pipe was drain gin my main decks fast enough. So I wanted a bigger pipe, but a fatter pipe would clutter up my hatch space. So I invented an oval pipe. And the seat drains were the…
lhedrick replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Brad,
Good comment about using water for ballast. Not sure why that wasn't obvious to me.
About all that plumbing. I have often considered draining water through my own epoxy formed tubes and channels because I could do it. That's part…
Brad Dimock replied to Den's discussion 'self bailing on decked dories?'
Here are a couple pictures. The boatman footwell self-bailer is large to get fast draining. I made it by taping two cardboard wrapping-paper tubes together, wrapping that in waxed paper, and fiberglassing it--then removing the form.
I put the holes…
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- New Hampshire, Portsmouth
- About Me:
- I'm building a Rogue River Dory without the reverse sheer. I'm interested in class 4-5 whitewater mostly out west, but I will make some test runs here in New Hampshire and Maine.
I'm a very low budget guy! I plan on completing my dory for 450 dollars total. I used fir for the frames from 2x4's that I ripped. Standard A/C 3/8 inch plywood =22 dollars a sheet. The only epoxy I will use will be to seal the edges of the plywood and the water proof the chines.
I think I'll have to make my own oars. Maybe I will get one old alumium shaft and cut it to make 'take-apart' sections.
I appreciate all input. Email is not my strong suit so phone calls are even better 603-431-7957. I will return all phone calls on my nickel.
Whitewater raft guide on Maine rivers and primary boatman through Grand Canyon in 1991. WW Kayaker etc
- Boats I own:
- Sea kayak; self built "sequin" -plans from wooden boat magazine. I also built a dogsled of white ash
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- At 7:55am on August 24, 2010,
Jim Rubino said… - If you look at the photo of the red McKenzie boat you'll notice that it's not completely decked over like the other Briggs Dory - there's more open space for fishermen/storage, etc.
Jim
- At 3:14pm on May 24, 2009,
Andy Hutchinson said… - Hi Den,
In regards to the Little North Fork dory in Moab, I don't know too much of her history. I believe she mostly ran trips on the Salmon R. for Northwest Dories in the Martin Litton years and (now) O.A.R.S., probably "put out to pasture" (w/the Oosta Lake), to beat around Canyonlands on the occasional raft trip when they run a dory or two on their trips there. She was made in the Eastside Boatshop, by one of the Lavier Brothers, probably in the mid-80's or so. Little North Fork (guessing) is probably a tributary to the Salmon in Idaho, but not sure there.
The other boatshop (of the Lavier Brothers) was/is called Lavro, know for mass-producing fishing, (and the occasional, whitewater/decked boats made entirely out of fiberglass (roven woven material) and gel-coated. An inexpensive hard-hull, that I'm sure has delivered a lot of joy to fly fishermen out there.
I'm not sure about the Eastside boat designs, but guessing they are similar to the Lavro which are basically, low-sided McKenzies.
Most of my boats are marine ply, sheathed w/ West systems epoxy and e-glass. I've never built an entire boat out of fiberglass, though I have built several, airex, p.v.c.-foam core boats.
Thanks for the questions/thoughts and best of luck in your dory romance!
Andy
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